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The Joy in Goal Setting

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Episode 3:

Thriving Beyond Adversity: The Power of Mindset with James Newlands

James Newlands, Founder of Newlands Charters

Join us for an inspiring discussion with James Newlands as he shares his journey of overcoming a severe back injury and leveraging adversity to fuel personal growth. Discover how James surrounded himself with a supportive community that empowered him to pursue new aspirations across various areas of his life. Despite facing uncertainty, James found a renewed passion and purpose, transitioning into a fulfilling career. Drawing from his own experiences, James shares valuable insights into cultivating resilience, embracing change, and seizing the opportunities around you.

James Newlands runs and operates Newlands Charters. Follow him on Instagram @newlandscharters

Hutson 0:13
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James, welcome to the show. I’m glad you’re here.

James 1:19
Thanks for having me. Coach DODDS.

Hutson 1:21
Yeah, man. You know, we were just talking a little bit before the show about how we know each other. It’s been because we go way back.

James 1:29
It hadn’t been like 10 years now. Yeah,

Hutson 1:32
it feels like it feels like forever. I mean, you know, I always talk about you, and in all the amazing things you’ve done, which we’ll dive into today, but I think about our relationship growing in so many different ways from like, a teaching into a mentorship and now to like friends and colleagues, which is like kind of a cool kind of cool transition.

James 1:50
It is really cool. I mean, when did we first start it was an Old Testament and New Testament class at Porter gout, which was, I was a, I was a crazy kid back then I would say it was a lot of fun. But then it kind of transitioned into you know, we share baseball, and I would always come talk to you. And at Porter, gout. I mean, I had a handful of people that I talked to in the administration, but I don’t know, I think we just connected. Yeah,

Hutson 2:15
I think we connected on the baseball desire. But also, I always tended to find people that I thought were pretty similar to me in high school, that maybe you needed a someone who was understanding, understanding of like, folks that will enjoy success, but maybe not in like the traditional sense. And you’ve always been someone who even pushed me and a lot of ways and successful and professionally and but you know, school is, school is not always for everyone in the same way. And I think that me and us were similar, and that way and your friends, and I understood that. And I think it was always fun to see you grow. You know, that was cool.

James 3:00
Yeah. Especially back in high school. I mean, we were crazy bunch. And you would always kind of you would give us the guiding light. And you know, I always had a place to come talk to you. And then when I went to college, you transitioned right into the alumni role. And then we hung out a little bit more, maybe we wouldn’t have talked again, I don’t know. But from there we had some some lunches and some coffee after college and it’s just kind of fostered into this cool relationship that I don’t. I don’t really have many other people from Porter guy that I talked to like that, at least on the administration side. But there was a handful. I mean, Coach Tate, I love Dr. Westman as well shout out to them. I don’t know if they’ll ever watch this. But love you guys played a big role in my growing up at Porter guard. So yeah,

Hutson 3:42
yeah, man. Well, and let’s let’s dive right in there actually, cuz I think it’s a great transition into school. So you love Porter gowd. And you went to South Carolina. And tell me about that experience? Because you had it you have, in some ways a, quote, traditional sense, like you did a lot of the things that most folks do in college, but also you, you did some unique things that were very outside the bounds of what I would say is normal, that were inspiring. So I’d love to kind of hear about your, your school experience. Yeah. So

James 4:09
I mean, at Porter gowd I didn’t really challenge myself too much. I mean, I came out with like a 3.7 GPA. And I was like, I remember I went into the University of South Carolina and my dad brought me upstairs and he was like, Alright, now you get to choose your major. And I was like, what do you what do you mean, I’m just, I’m business. Like, what does that mean? And he’s like, no, no, these are the seven majors that you can choose inside of business. And I was like, okay, cool. Finance. I love money. Let’s work with money. And until I got there, I didn’t really understand exactly what finance was. I always kind of just did what I thought was good in finance and money. I love money to work with money and numbers. So went in and did that. And from there, I think that’s where I really started to kind of grow not only from the academic side, but also from okay, I started to have interests. I was in college now. I was 18 years old. I was outside of the house. My parents, you know, they were straight because I was crazy in college and high school like I just kind of did what I wanted. And then from there I tried. You know, I love the passion for baseball. So I went to club baseball and try that out. I always thought returnees were kind of cool. So I tried the fraternity, school. Obviously, I stayed on my academics, but I always kind of kept open to the fact that I was interested in a lot of different things. And I gelled with a lot of different people. And I never liked just kind of pigeonhole myself into one thing. Just because it it just doesn’t seem fun to me. I’d rather pick a few people from every single thing that I do that I love hanging out with them and also grow with them. So yeah, I think college was a great place for me to just kind of one grow up and to find some of the things that I was really interested in. Yeah, try everything.

Hutson 5:53
When you and I would say, what’s what’s unique about? I think your circumstances is not just that you tried then a lot of folks try things. Yeah. But they don’t finish. They don’t follow through. And you follow through with baseball. And you follow through with academics, you follow through with attorney and the there’s also a piece of I mentioned, you started a chartering business.

James 6:12
I did, I did start a chartering business. So that was pretty interesting, because COVID hadn’t happened yet. And I always had a love for going on the boat, and hanging out with friends on the boat and just kind of an affinity for the water. And I was like, Okay, I’m a sophomore. Now in college, I can either become a captain when I’m six years old, and do that, like everybody’s passion. Or I have this period of my life where I don’t have work, and I don’t have any responsibilities, really. So I was like, Screw it. Basically, I’m going to try and get my captain’s license got my captain’s license, right before my 20th birthday. And then I called my friend up. His name’s Matt Haggerty. And we had talked and I said, Listen, man, I need a, I need a first mate for this charter. I’m about to run to try and run, I have no idea what I’m going to call it and I have no idea what I’m doing yet. And he was like, I’m in all in. So shout out to him as well shout out, Matt, that was amazing. He’s a great person to have on board with me. But from there, we just sat down and literally came up with everything. I mean, we started the business, we did merchandising, we did marketing, we did all this, and it was in a position or in a transition into COVID. So it was actually kind of a blessing, because school ended in like April. And then we could just solely focus on that. And everybody was actually trying to get out of the house here in Charleston. So we would mark it to, you know, our networks that we had here and just kind of spread the word. And I mean, I think we ran over 30 plus charters that year, we call it new ones charters, we couldn’t come up with a catchy name. So we just use my last times easy is better. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, that wasn’t just running a charter really, at that age. It was I mean, I had to relearn the business. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you learn the business, but you also have the responsibility of people’s lives. So we one had to give them a good time. But two, I had to manage, you know, having a first mate and also manage people that maybe if you didn’t catch the fish that they wanted, you know,

Hutson 8:14
given the the experience that provides the value what they’re paying. Yeah, yeah,

James 8:18
I mean, some people had unrealistic expectations. And maybe I didn’t set that up. At first. I wasn’t the best fisherman in the world. I’ll say it myself, but time on the water helped me get better. But also time on the water taught me, okay, this is how I deal with people. This is what I do on the business and what I need to set up what’s going well, what’s not going well. But just communicating with people, and somebody that really stuck out to me was we’d gotten off the water and we caught like four or five fish. It was like one red fish, and three sharks. And I told the person like okay, yeah, this was awesome, blah, blah, we were looking to get paid. And he’s like, I’m not going to pay you. And I was like, what, what? What do you mean, you’re not going to pay me like, we just did all this? And he’s like, Yeah, we’re not going to do that. Like, we didn’t catch what we wanted to catch. And I was like, Okay, so here we go. Anyway, obviously, we kept professional, we talked it out. I told them, hey, this is our overhead. This is what we did. I called you the day before, these were the conditions I laid everything out for you, like we have to get paid. So we ended up actually coming to a conclusion, he calmed down a little bit, but we gave him a little bit of a discount for the next time that he came on. And they ended up being one of our best customers after that. So it was kind of a cool experience

Hutson 9:28
with them told me through that. I mean, you’re how old were you at that point?

James 9:30
When we started running charters, I had just turned 20 years old.

Hutson 9:36
So you’re 20 years old? 21 Whatever. Yeah. And I’m assuming this gentleman was older than you. They were a little bit older than us not too much not crazy. And they’re not wanting to pay you I’m sure they’re not the nicest at this point in time. You gotta have two options right? You either like tuck tail and say okay, fine. Like what am I gonna do with this? Well, I got three options or you get angry when just not gonna get the result. Yeah, or you, you handle it in a way that is professional and you end up, they end up becoming some of your best business. Yeah, what, um How do you think that you were able to in that moment and those moments, choose the right option? Choose an option that wasn’t frustration? Or like, where does that come from? I mean, you weren’t not 40. And I had all this practice and failure.

James 10:28
I think that honestly comes from and I don’t talk about it much, but is a back injury that I have. So I I’ve got two bulging discs in my lower half, my two lowest disc on my back. But that was a real struggle for me. And that took a lot of patience for a lot of time after when I was 20. But I had this transition in my head, I was kind of a hothead in high school, I still was in college a little bit. But when it came to business, I was like, okay, obviously, we’ve got a name, my name on this company, we’ve got my friends, reputation, Charlson is pretty small, like, there’s got to be a different way to handle this, there’s just got to be a different way I have to think outside the box. And actually one of my friends, you know, William Davis, William Davis, he was also in the same high school was me and we were roommates in college. But he had a different way of looking at things that I always tried to mimic where he never really let people get to him. He never has, he just always had like this kind of cool, calm and collected demeanor that I tried to follow. Like I was a hothead. Somebody said something to me. All right, let’s, let’s go me and you, whatever. And that probably was just a representation of my own kind of self conscious. Whatever was going on in my head, I was just not competent in myself. So really, I tried to operate what how he would have operated, just relaxed and calm and collected and just take a step back and take a breath instead of just going straight into. They’re challenging me right now. They’re not challenging me. They’re challenging what happened? And they’re upset with

Hutson 12:03
their expectations. And it’s not a personal thing. Yeah, yeah. So I think so often. Learning to be the best version of ourselves is oftentimes just like witnessing other people and learning from who they are and how they manage things. Yeah. And it sounds like that. That’s one of those moments where you can like, look back and see how it shaped you as both hardship. Yeah, with your back and also like learning from, even though I mean, he’s probably not your mentor, but I probably look each other as like mentors in a lot of ways. Oh, yeah. Really? Do you challenge each other? Yeah. I think those relationships and you’re someone that has always valued community and relationships. And you see that through FEMA called a buddy, and they’re helping you with a charter and utilizing your networks to grow and have a successful Charter Business at 2021 years old. And so you kind of run that through you graduate from South Carolina. Yeah. No, what now? What do you do?

James 13:05
So I’ll actually bring it back a little bit to being at South Carolina, probably our junior year. My back injury was in full force, so I couldn’t get out of bed really, for 1314 hours a day. I couldn’t do what I enjoyed. I play club baseball, like it was killing me to go play baseball, it would take me out, I’d have to take a nap for like three hours afterwards, I would be on the floor crying to my mom saying like, I just can’t get off the I can’t get off the ground. And both my parents are doctors. So obviously they’re trying to figure it out. They’re trying to work through the list. I’m getting all these tests done, and nobody could figure it out. Until I got this MRI and they’re like, Okay, this is what’s wrong with you. So that really broke me down to the core. And I say it always taught it started with chocolate milk. And William William will laugh at this when he listened to all my roommates will call William and Matt but it started with chocolate milk. I mean, I was screwing around. I was drinking hard. Like I was in a fraternity. I was in the club baseball. But I was drinking hard. I was you know, smoking cigarettes, smoking cigarettes when I was in college. And I never smoked cigarettes like what am I doing? That was like rock bottom. I remember I’d smoked a cigarette in my in my kind of apartment. And I was like, What am I doing? Like, this is bad. How do I get here? How did I How did I start smoking? And it’s like not horrible. But I’m like I’m smoking a cigarette. How you have been? It’s pretty low. Yeah, yeah. So from there, I was like, Okay, I’m done with this. And I told you, I’m like, I’m dropping the fraternity. I’m doing this I’m doing that I’m making these changes. And the first thing I started doing was I would clean the kitchen at night because we were kind of a little bit messy. We clean the kitchen at night and my reward would be a chocolate milk because my dad always had chocolate milk at night and I was like, okay, every, every time I do this goal, I’m gonna reward myself with little chocolate milk. And then from there, it was just small things that I would add on small little discipline, things that I would add on and then it translates started transitioning into work because I came home. It was I think it was my junior year. Yeah, it was my junior year for Christmas. And my parents said, Okay, what are you gonna do? After college? I’m like, Oh crap, I don’t know. I don’t know what I’m going to do after college. So my dad, he had worked for a company called vendor Mae. And he had a bunch of they split off the owners of that after it sold. They were vendor credentialing for hospital systems, but they split off and they all did their own things in Atlanta and started different companies. Patient cosier? No, they did all sorts of different stuff, top of mind. So he’s like, go go talk to these people. And I got lucky with that. And I at first I said, Now, I want to do this myself. And I tried doing it myself for a while, and I was like, I’ll just go talk to him. So I drove up to Atlanta, talk to Bert Blitch, Andy mine and Bill Hayes, these are the three owners of these three companies, and they were all very successful, they had exited from betterment, and they had all started these companies, which two out of three have exited again now. And they taught me that was the baseline where it was just a different model of thinking, it was not, hey, this is you go in and you can work at, you know, fortune 500 company and work your way up. And they said that there was benefits in that, but I just absorbed information from them. And I sat down, I took them to coffee, and I absorbed as much information as I possibly could and I keep up with them still. And from there, I I started kind of applying to jobs and interviewing for jobs, and I almost made it a game. So by the time I was done with college, I had seven jobs lined up, seven jobs lined up, and probably five of them, I just used as interview practice. And then it came down to Boeing and Cyrano video, which is the company I worked for now. And I went to the owner of Cyrano video, and I was like, listen, I took this job with Boeing. I’m not going to be able to make it like I, I’m going to take this job with Boeing that’s kind of more set in stone, because they’re still they were still at the startup stage. Established, right? Yeah. And he’s like, basically said, screw that. Like, why would you do that this is you will operate this way. And he had known me since I was younger. So he’s like, this is I will put you in this role. Go talk to your boss, Mitchell, or your colleague, Mitchell. And I was like, okay. So I went and talked with Mitchell, who’s who is my boss, but at Cyrano video. And from there, I was like, Okay, I’m on. Like, I love the fact that they gave me autonomy, as a startup company to go and build basically the next vertical that they’re going to do. And what that company what Cyrano video is, is, it’s a full solution of hardware, software and services to allow physicians and employees and staff to get on camera to create videos more affordably and effectively inside hospital systems. So our motto is, it should take two minutes to create a professional two minute video, and it should cost a fraction of time. So we take all the heavy lifting out of it, but my responsibility is the eye care industry. So at first I’d showed up, and it was just, I didn’t know what business Feldman was, was my first job. I was nervous. And they’re like, Okay, I asked my boss, Mike, what are what are we doing today? Right, like, where do we go from here? Do I have no idea? You tell me? I have no idea. So we were established in hospital systems. And then we moved into medical device companies and physician groups and management service organizations. And that’s been the whole that’s been the whole thing. Since I started. That’s been the whole Hey, what do we do? What what can what can we do? I have no idea. Try it. And we just kind of hashed that out. And I think it’s been a great thing for me, because I hate even going back to Port God, I hate being in the structured like, dispatch, you’ve got to you know,

Hutson 18:33
something that’s interesting to me is thinking. And I know, there’s a lot of folks that are similar to you in this. But maybe you haven’t quite reached their potential I think is you’re someone who is very disciplined, but also is likes to likes to be outside of structure. Yeah. And those seem to be not in parallel. But they work really well in certain environments, right? Yeah. And for your job, your kind of job, it allows you to thrive because you can be disciplined enough to build something. Yep. But you don’t need that the parameters are there. But then it’s go plant out the box. Yep. But if the box is already filled with stuff you’re gonna see inside the lines, yeah, it’s gonna kill your creativity, even though you like being disciplined.

James 19:22
More than creativity, I think kills might drive. Yeah. Your excitement, joy. Yeah, your passion do get very passionate about different things. And I mean, that’s, it goes beyond the job. Like, I mean, I want to do everything that I possibly can. We’ve talked about this, especially talking about the ideal life and just, you know, we had built that we had gone through the framework that you guys had and really laid out exactly what I want to do and how to do it. And that helped me because I had never really sat down and done that and we had talked about that and I’m like Coach doubt I need to build this conference. There’s a piece missing. I don’t know what it is.

Hutson 19:56
Yeah, well, I want to let’s let’s for a second if we can, if we can, yeah, can go back there. I mean, I remember you and I talking before I talked too much about what’s going on here. Yeah. And from the outside, if I told anyone about you like that kid has everything together, like you’ve worked even and mentioned, other startups you worked for, and other things have been successful with your own startup. You did. You’re on track with this cool company. You’re doing all this stuff. And it looks like you’re all put together. Yeah. And they were talking. You’re like, there’s something missing? Yeah. Which is like, I think, basically, anyone out here for the most part, not everyone, but the majority of us would be similar as like, what’s my purpose? Yeah, I know what I like. But what’s my purpose? Why am I here? What am I doing? There’s something missing. So maybe bring us back to like, maybe how you got there, how you began to verbalize that. And then if you can remember kind of like, not specifically the process we went through, but but how that was how that was helpful for you moving forward.

James 20:58
Well, I had started working. And I was working really, really hard. And I was like, Okay, this, this should be fulfilling here. Like, we’re coming to the first six months of working, been working hard, things are kind of happening. Why am I missing this other part? Why am I missing this other half. And I don’t know if it was just something that’s in me or something that everybody has, but it was just a feeling of, okay, I made it through this, I will kind of give this to my back injuries. I made it through this really, really difficult time that I’m still working on every single day to kind of just relax and be normal to even just sit in this chair is it was hard. Two years ago, it was almost impossible. I couldn’t sit through a class in college, I had to lay down and listen to them. So when I got through that I was like, Okay, I always wanted mental toughness. I always looked up to people, I thought you had it. I thought a lot of other people and mentors in my life had had mental toughness. And I was like, how do you get that? How do you get that? I don’t know if it was just fate for the back end tree. But I mean, I’m not gonna say I don’t want it to happen to me or wish it didn’t happen to me. But it’s taught me a lot of things. And that’s where, from that moment on where I was able to still lift and keep myself in line and disciplined. I was like, okay, when I feel good, why don’t I just take it to the next level? How far can I go. And a quote that I live by is, I mean, like him or not, Conor McGregor was saying that he was curiously fascinated. He’s just curiously fascinated about everything. I’m fascinated about how far I can take myself physically, mentally, emotionally, with my friends, family, girlfriend, all of that. I mean, I think that I had a really, really good friend group to like, we’re very open and vulnerable, that not many people our age or guys really may not have. So we talked about these things a lot. And even this year, in 2120 23, and we all sat down, and we talked about our goals. For what what did we do well, in 2023? And what are we doing in 2024, to do to go above and beyond. And this had to do with everything that we had talked about? mental emotional, all that we talked about it and put it down on paper. So I would say maybe I got the ball started a little bit. Yeah. But I think I got the ball started because of my situation with my neck. Yeah. So. And another thing is, I mean, coming from poor gout. And, you know, I was really fortunate to have all the resources I ever wanted. And I don’t think I ever took advantage of it really until I got till I had the back injury. And I was like, Okay, it’s kind of a fresh start. I think that’s, that’s a big part of it, too.

Hutson 23:34
Yeah. You mentioned friends and the closeness that you’ll have together. And I would second that, I think you’ll have a very unique relationship with each other. Yeah. And I think that there’s a lot of guys that are listening that especially the older you get, the more difficult it is to have close friends and close guy friends that you feel like you can talk on a consistent basis, whatever that means, monthly or weekly, or daily, whatever it is, yeah. And about real things, things that matter, not just, quote, unquote, like passion, things like sports or things, whatever. But like real things, the personal things that really matter. How do you think that y’all maintain that? And like, Why do you think that y’all y’all have like, Where’d that start from? I know it’s a long time ago. So you can you can you can blame or you can claim it because you’ve been together for so long. That might be true. Yeah. But just the I have a lot of friends that are friends with other friends groups that know each other and hang out together a lot. But they don’t talk about things that matter. So I don’t think that’s it. So maybe you can think about like, or help help help those with a how do I get that?

James 24:50
So when I was younger, like Ethan Johnson, one of my good best friends for the longest time since we were young. When I I went I was born and Charlson moved to Chester, South Carolina and came back to Charleston when I was 10 or 11 years old. So when I went and started at Portimao, it was just him and I, like he were family friends. Because my mom had met his mom at like a porter, gout intro or something. And he came to my house and I was like, Who is this kid? It was just getting my house. And we kind of butted heads a little bit at first, but then we became inseparable. We just gelled. It was the weirdest thing. In my friend group didn’t really grow much after that, of course, I had friends, like you’re talking about a group of people that we hung out with, but

Hutson 25:36
which is fine, by the way. That’s good. Yeah. But there’s a deepness that everyone I think desire, there

James 25:42
is an illusionist, there is a deepness, but we had that deepness, from a young age, we just, you most people have one person in their life for like, this is my absolute best friend, I love this person, like, hands down love this guy. And I personally didn’t have like the ability to have have as for lack of a better word, a relationship with a friend. It was either all in or all out, I trusted you all the way or I didn’t trust you all the way. And that’s just how I was built growing up. From there, it kind of like, I met William, same thing, we dive in on a different level. And we became a little bigger friend group. And then I went to college, and I met Matt. Same thing. And it was just kind of picking these people off year over year, without even noticing it. And we became really, really good friends. And then when we would all come together, they also share the same thought and they share the same. Really everything. We all kind of have the same thing. So it was like picking over Yeah, 1015 years. And

Hutson 26:44
you’ll I mean, some of you have very similar interests. Yeah, I know that some you’ll have very different interests vary. But the one interest that I think is is the important one, and correct me if I’m wrong. I may be overstating this, but the interest of a desire to grow personally. Yeah. Is one that all of you share. And I think that everyone would say, Well, of course, I grew up personally. But it’s a different thing. I want to grow personally, and I’m going to actively pursue to grow. Yeah. And I think we all have that in you push each other to grow. And I think and tell me, I mean, you chime in, but it seems like that’s been one of the fulcrums of why you can then ask other questions of each other or go deeper and other areas, because everyone knows is not personal kind of you go back to the building story. Like I wasn’t personally affronting. You it was his expectations. And so the same thing is it’s not a personal question, if I, you know, like when I would challenge you with things. Yeah, it wasn’t a personal front. It was because I wanted you to grow. And you knew that I had the best interest at heart. Yeah.

James 27:51
I think that’s kind of a hard. That’s kind of a hard thing. Because a lot of people, especially when you have a friend group, they want to hear what they want to hear, like a friend comes to you. You’re like, oh, everything’s gonna be okay. Yeah, if you just are alright. But I started to challenge that. And they would challenge it as well, we just fostered a relationship where it was kind of cool, because everybody had a different, they have a different way of operating, there may be more quiet, more open, more vulnerable, whatever it is, but we all would challenge each other on whatever was happening. So you had something with your girlfriend, right? It wasn’t off the table, we’re going to talk about it. And that loyalty and honesty was something that I had to have for us to be good friends. And they also had to have it fully reference. Yes. So just being open and vulnerable, and realizing that it’s not an attack at you. And it was hard for me as well. You know, when somebody says something, and you’re like, Well, why do they think that like, Yeah, screw them, basically, you gotta get away from that. You gotta just have open conversations. And the more and more you do it, it feels kind of awkward at first, I mean, but eventually, it’s just not. It’s just not you guys are having real conversations. You’re not just talking about sports, you’re not just talking about this or that. So it’s like a muscle, you have to work. Yeah. And you can’t judge anybody really, for how they’re feeling or what they’re feeling because everybody, all my friends come from different backgrounds. So yeah, that’s really all we do. Well,

Hutson 29:13
and, you know, speaking on the framework we talked about, I mean, you know, this there’s a difference, like, between we use composite practice and deliberate practice. And the difference is, is as you’re pursuing the life role or your goals, comfortable practice is like kind of you doing on your own for the most part and deliberate is it moves there when you have a coach that helps you. And in a lot of ways your friends serve as coaches to each other, in that the framework helps you pursue your purpose and helps you pursue the best version of yourself. Yeah. And your friends, is what I’m hearing. They’re they’re interested in you pursuing the best version of yourself and they’re coaching along that way. And so you see them as like a form of sports and allergy. And as we say, life coaching, but just coaching you, and not a personal way, but as I care for you way, which is really unique, and that’s truly unique. And I think there, you know, the statistics are out consistently on how America is becoming more lonely and particularly men. And this loneliness is it’s real. It’s absolutely real. And I think you said everyone has at least one best friend, I would even challenge that. I don’t know if that’s true. I wish that were true. And I think people might say, This is my, quote, best friend. But are they having real conversation consistently? And the answer is no. Yeah, they people are seeking that. I think they’re seeking that wholeheartedly. And and I think when you know what you want, and you know who you are, it’s easier to be open and vulnerable. You don’t know who you are and what you want. It’s easier to fear that, that you will be judged, or that you are, I don’t know, like less like you don’t add up. Yeah. Because when you come across someone who doesn’t know what they want, it’s intimidating. And so like us talking through kind of like that, what I something’s missing, what’s that there’s that piece of something that’s not there. Like, there’s, there’s joy, and there’s peace and knowing who you want to be. Now, of course, we’re not there, and we’ll never get there. And there’s this ideal version of who we want to be that we’re all working towards. But as we have people around us, that community aspect, it’s important, it’s crucial to that to our, to our join or happiness. If you want to discover how the ideal lives founder Mark Condon quit smoking, shed 80 pounds, established a thriving logistics company, and embrace the challenges of becoming an Ironman triathlete, all things the framework we referenced in today’s episode, order your copy of his inspiring book, the ideal life today, with any website or any major retailer, begin your journey towards a fulfilling life filled with purpose and achievement. You

James 31:57
talk about community nowadays, and I mean, with we grew up in the age right now. Well, we were kind of the first to really test out the social media. I know everybody talks about it was Instagram and this and that’s, that’s a false community in my head, because I know I’ve felt the pressure of it. And I personally got off of my Instagram, I don’t get on it. I don’t check it. I don’t really look at it, I’ve got another thing that I do with call Marsh hammock. But that’s just kind of exploring our Chronicles inside of our friend group on the water. But I think getting off of Instagram was one of the best things for me personally, because like I said, I’m I have a small friend group, but I have a very, very, very strong friend group. And these are the only guys I care about. I have acquaintances. Sure, I’ll help you. Yeah, I love you guys, too. But at the end of the day, when I need to call somebody, this is what I always think of if I’m in trouble, and I need to call somebody, who am I going to call? And it’s those five guys, or six guys that I have. So I just keep I worry about them. We all don’t have that much time anyway after work, especially after college. So why would I put any more time towards anybody else other than the people that really care about me, that’s my friends, my family, my girlfriend, I don’t care about anything else. And really, I listened to a podcast where guy it was a billionaire. And he said, when he was growing up at first, like he wanted, everybody liked him. And then when he got a little bit older, he realized, you know, he’s like, I don’t care if anybody likes me. He’s like, he didn’t really care what people thought. And when he got even older when he was in the 70s. He said, Well, at the end of the day, nobody really cared. Nobody cared. I didn’t care. Nobody cared. Everybody cared about themselves. Yeah. And I mean, that’s pretty powerful. To me, why would I put so much effort and extend myself to so many people, when I only have limited amount of time? And what is it I think there’s like 180 people that you can really keep track of, you’ve got 1000 2000 people on Instagram, how you can’t can trap it can’t keep track of them, and you’re constantly combating 50 But yeah, exactly. 150. Right. Right.

Hutson 34:02
No and into into your point, focusing on the relationships that that matter, you know, and caring about those folks. And like you said, it doesn’t mean that we’re selfish. Does it mean that we’re not kind and helpful, and we want to help see other people that we don’t interact with consistently do well, because of course we do. There’s joy to be found there. But taking care of yourself allows you to take care of other people. Yeah. And that’s not overextending yourself, obviously. Well, you talked a lot about perseverance, and discipline. Where do you think comes from?

James 34:38
I mean, in high school, I never I didn’t really have it than that perseverance or discipline. I had the opportunity to go play some college ball. I had a couple offers didn’t pursue those ones because they were smaller d3, but I never really actually pushed myself to do anything at that age. But I still, I didn’t exceed but I still was above average in a way On the field, in the classroom, I wasn’t horrible. I just never pushed myself. And then when I after I’d had the injury, and I had started to see some success, just in the business side of things, because I had run the charter, and I just did it without even thinking about it. I just thought charter would be cool. I’m gonna run this, but I had so many things after that. And I always watch things where people are 30 or 40 years old, and they’re like, this is what I regret, regret, this is what I wish I did. And I hate the feeling of regret. So my motto is, you know, the pain from discipline is a lot less worse than the pain from regret. And that’s kind of what I’ve lived by since then. i It’s not like you can just turn it on either. It’s very, very difficult, like you said, from an outside sense. Yeah, things may all be put together. It’s not. It took hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of steps, it’s gonna take 1000s and 1000s. Beyond that, like you said, you’re never going to reach the goal that you want, really. So I just think adding these little things in and adding these little things in and then also being curious at how far can I take it? Why not? I remember I talked with some friends from high school. And I said, Yeah, I want to make 30 to $50 million. That’s what I want to do, why? Why not? And they kind of, you know, laughed at me a little bit. And I was like, Okay, we’ll see. Why not? First of all, for me to you, why not? Why are you limiting yourself at 20 to 23 years old, if that’s my goal, fine. If you’ve gotten the passion for it, I would believe somebody the same way, I would hope for them to do the same thing. And some people say it’s not a healthy way of doing it. But I use the doubt from people, I almost seek it sometimes because I do put out some crazy things. And there’s no better feeling of the meat for me than saying I’m going to do something and then going out and doing Yeah. And eventually people started to quiet down a little bit. But then you go to a crazier goal and a crazier goal and a crazy goal. And that’s how I’ve just operated since then.

Hutson 37:05
And it was rewarding and achieving the goal, right. I mean, there’s no science behind that. We know that with the chemicals that are released. And I think we talked about a lot. And I think that was the idea of the missing piece to a degree is 30 $50 million. Awesome. So that what Yeah, right. Like, that’s just the goal. And you reach in like, well, well, now what right? But like there’s got to be that when that when you reach out if you do, but when you reach that, that’s only helping you become the version of yourself that you want to be x way. And we talked all about that. But, you know, it’s I think it’s those crazy goals. We call them dream goals. And they’re important. They’re what keeps us aligned with the version we want to be as we wake up each day. So why am I doing this? Okay? It’s because when I’m 85, I want to have a family compound, we all get together and we celebrate vacations together and these amazing places. That’s why exactly I’m the authority for doing hours. Exact right? Not just so I can have it. But it’s got to align with the person I want to be, which is a family, whatever it is, right? It’s similar to we talked about, but that’s it. Yeah,

James 38:11
I mean, I mean, my, the people around me from the outside, sure people are like, Oh, you just want 30 or $50 million, whatever. That’s the goal that I have. But it’s really not money. Like you said, it is building a foundation where everybody around me has the opportunities that they want. I have all the opportunities that I want. And I can pursue because growing up, I had the opportunity to pursue anything I wanted, and didn’t have the constraint very thankfully, of money. And I have a lot of friends and I have a lot of people in my life that maybe were constrained by that and could have done things that if it weren’t for money they would have been able to write or weren’t for money. So it goes a lot deeper than that. It goes a lot deeper that and you know, you say perseverance and discipline. I think another thing is a lot of people will use this doubt, as a means to take it to the next level, kind of and that’s exactly what I do. I don’t think everybody feels that way. But I take it personally I always have. And it almost kind of gets me a little riled up and a little angry, but I had heard a competitive nature. Yeah, it is a competitive nature. And it seems like since it can’t play sports, right? This is how I compete now. So when I take it personally, I think of it as like water behind the dam. You know, you can get angry and the water can overflow beyond the dam and basically destroy the village or you can run that anger that water through the turbine and power it. So I run all that anger through the turbine. It’s not like I’m sitting there like oh my god, but somebody doubts me. I remember I had a friend like it wasn’t too serious, but he it was like it was going into 2023 and I had you know I was coaching for middle school baseball team for Moultrie. I had been doing my MBA I had work and I was upgrading to my master captain’s license all In the same like, four month period at to start. He’s like, Dude, I don’t know if you’re gonna be able to do this. You know, that’s a lot of work you sure about that? He wasn’t really getting on my case when he was saying like you show up. Yeah. And I just printed out a picture of him and I kind of made up a quote. Yeah, print out because I put it on my desk and I use that every single day for four months. And yeah, it was kind of foolish, but

Hutson 40:22
lots of fun. Yeah, yeah. That’s a trip so you did you finish your masters in

James 40:29
so I finished my master. I finished my master upgraded license, we ran the Moultrie Middle School baseball team, I was the head coach. We were supposed to be the worst team on Mount Pleasant. We were the best team on Mount Pleasant. We were 11 and three. And then yeah, continue to work on my MBA, which I’ll done, we’ll be done with this year, and then work. I mean, just grinding on that. So it’s exciting. It is exciting. It was exciting. And it was fun to push myself. That’s another thing always trying to push myself further than what I think I’m capable of. Yeah, I know when I feel uncomfortable. Like it’s in a good space.

Hutson 41:03
It’s in a good spot. Yeah. And that’s, you know, we talk a lot about how the flow state zone is like is getting just outside your comfort zone not too far for too long because burnout I remember getting out and coming back in right slowly like just outside and then coming back and that’s exactly right. Like if you’re not outside, you’re gonna get bored. Yeah, you’re not gonna grow the only way to grow is to get outside of the comfort zone just enough and then come back and back and forth. Well, man, it’s been so fun catching up, and you know everything and and thanks for coming in. Yes, sir.

Episode 2:

Finding Strength in Vulnerability: A Journey of Healing with Adrianne Betz

Adrianne Betz, Founder of Little Adi + Co

Join us as we dive into a heartfelt conversation with Adrianne Betz. Hear how she navigated through launching a new career, and then pivoting during the pandemic. Adrianne sheds light on the power of self-compassion, mindfulness, and finding community support where she least expected it. Discover the profound benefits of trusting your instincts, trying new opportunities, and leaning into what is right in front of you.

Adrianne Betz is an influencer and the founder of Little Adi + Co. Follow her on Instagram @little_adi_co

Hutson 0:13
The joy in goal setting podcast is proud to be partnered with and brought to you by the ideal life. The ideal life offers a multimedia platform that is focused on cultivating a growth mindset. Here you’ll find a supportive community of coaches, valuable online resources and transformative courses aimed at helping you lead a more gratifying and joyful life. Ready to take the next step and your personal growth journey. Visit the ideal life.com to explore their wealth and resources and join the vibrant growing community today. Welcome to the joy in goal setting podcast where we empower individuals to discover their purpose, achieve their goals and experience a joyful life through encouraging conversations. I’m your host Hudson DODDS. Today, we’re sitting down with Adrian Betts a fashion designer, business owner and a mother of four. We discussed turning closed doors into opportunities, how to combat burnout, and finding joy outside of work.

Adrian, welcome to the show. I’m so glad you’re here.

Adrianne 1:18
Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Hutson 1:19
Yeah. Well, welcome to our new space.

Adrianne 1:22
Beautiful. I love the new smell. Yeah, new house smell. Yeah,

Hutson 1:26
it is right. It’s like they used to put in like cabs. You know? Yeah. Beach smell or? Yeah. Well, yeah, it’s a new year, at the time of recording. I’m curious to hear from you. Either both of these questions, or one of the other, but what’s one thing you’re really excited about in 2024? Or one thing that is like kind of making you nervous about 2024? Um,

Adrianne 1:50
one thing I’m excited about is possibility. I feel like it’s gonna be a big year. But there’s a big question mark, what is that going to look like? But I consider myself a pretty intuitive person. And this kind of happened to me back in 2019. And that ended up being a great year. So feel like empty book.

Hutson 2:10
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So possibilities. Are there possible is on the horizon, you’re thinking about or you just feel like it’s gonna happen.

Adrianne 2:18
I’m, I’m leaving it open to whatever comes. But yeah, I think it’s gonna be great.

Hutson 2:25
That’s awesome. Yeah. And so you’re from Cape May, New Jersey. I am a place I here is a great visit not to grow up in.

Adrianne 2:34
Well, I mean, I had like the typical childhood, but it was very small town. It was great to grow up near the beach. But unfortunately, being New Jersey that is only functional. And like three months out of the year, and the rest of the year. It’s just dead silence and cold and terrible weather. And, yeah, I mean, everybody knew your business. And I had some great friends, small crew friends. But yeah, I had bigger dreams. I think Kate May. So that’s what took me to New

Hutson 3:07
York. Awesome. Sorry. Yeah, beach person.

Adrianne 3:10
I am a beach person. So that was the only hard thing about living in the city was that I still had that pole and that hankerin for the beach. So that’s what I love about Charleston.

Hutson 3:21
After Kate Mae, did you go straight to New York?

Adrianne 3:24
I did. So the minute I turned 18, while I applied for schools in New York for college, and I got into fit. And I was like, um, go and see. Yeah, and went to New York, the minute you know, first semester fall, and came home that first Christmas, and it was just eye opening. And I was like, Mom, I’m not coming back. I’m sorry. And she’s like, that’s cool. No, but you need a job. Like, I’m not going to pay for your time. I’ll pay for you while you’re in school, you know, during your semesters. But other than that, like you want to do the summer you want to do the winter, you need to have a job. So I hit the streets, got myself a job and never looked back. And I was there for about almost 12 years.

Hutson 4:05
When was it always New York and

Adrianne 4:09
always New York? Like I did not think I was going to leave New York ever, ever. Like I that was my dream.

Hutson 4:16
When did you decide Kate may growing up that New York was wasn’t the spot.

Adrianne 4:21
Um, I think the minute I got into wanting to do fashion, which was around like, 12 years old, I realized and coming from a family like my mom was a school teacher. My dad worked for the city. You know, that wasn’t kind of like in my realm. So I had to do my own research of like, what was a fashion designer? What did that look like? And I’ve just always been the kid no matter what that I like, set the bar very high, which can be a problem at times. But I went in an outline for myself on Google, like what does that look like and what’s the best of the best and so like, if I’m going to be in fashion I want bid go to the best schools and I wanted. And so New York City was like the hub of fashion, right Fashion Week and all the, you know, women in the streets with their bags and their heels and all that I wanted that I wanted. That was my dream. And from from a very early age,

Hutson 5:16
you mentioned that Cape May, in a lot of ways, is what I don’t want to say drove you away or drove you towards it. But it sounds like from early age, you fell in love with something that Cape May couldn’t offer you. Absolutely, yeah. And many cities can’t for that matter, but the desire for fashion. What is that? Did you see that in your family? What if it kept me wasn’t offering you I’m curious where that desire came from, um,

Adrianne 5:43
I was always into while I was always creative, I was always drawing, painting that type of stuff artist. But really, it was my grandmother, that I would say looking back now that probably introduced me to that. And I lost her when I was eight. And so I in a way, like part of my grief with I think was tapping into the relationship that I did get with her that little bit of time. And looking back, she exposed me to all of that, like she would bring me into her bedroom and show me stuff in her closet and things that my grandfather brought back from like Vietnam for her and her jewelry, and all of that and painting my nails. And, um, and then I you know, I don’t know, I just kind of always was a girly girl, I was always into what I was putting on my body and stuff like that, and never really loved what was out in the market for myself. So being, you know, the kid that drew and stuff, I will start making things for myself. And I would start drawing sketching ideas of clothing that I would want. And then kind of just let my imagination run wild with that. And probably by the time I was like 12 or 13 started like creating my own company in my head and what the name of that would be and creating my logo and all of that stuff. So

Hutson 7:05
what did your family How did your family respond to you wanting to go to New York? I know you said get a job but in like, leaving take me to a big city and then fashion. Yeah. How did they take that?

Adrianne 7:17
I think it definitely was out of their comfort zone for sure. And being the firstborn to they were like you’re going where I don’t know if we like can let that leash go that long. But they were pretty open for the most part, I think they were more scared of like, what does that mean? How are you going to take care of yourself? This seems like a career that maybe you won’t make a lot of money at first in and how can we raise you to be independent and provide for yourself and all that stuff? While so like chasing this dream that I think, honestly, I think they thought was a little like, out of the ordinary and yeah, kind of Yeah.

Hutson 8:01
So you landed in New York? Yeah, go to school. Start working. What was your first job in New York,

Adrianne 8:08
like very first job or like big girl job. Let’s do both very first job. While I was interning, I interned a lot. And a lot of them were unpaid. And I did a lot of every season I would do behind the scenes Fashion Week. So I would like dress the models and help wherever I was needed during the shows, and that was all unpaid. But my first paid I guess was a paid internship with a runway designer named David Rodriguez. And I would help him with pattern making and getting the fabric and all that running the streets. But I was so proud. He paid for my lunch. He gave me my MetroCard. And I was really hands on with seeing everything that goes into a show. And then beyond that, I would say I worked retail for a little bit and got to really see the customer side of their purchasing and consumer and all that stuff. So got to see a lot of what makes up really like the job itself.

Hutson 9:15
Yeah. Was there ever a moment in New York that tested you? You’re like, maybe this isn’t? Oh,

Adrianne 9:20
absolutely. What I wanted. Yeah, I had a moment I would say, my sophomore year, and it was the summer of my sophomore year. So like I said, like, I was not going home and my mom’s like, you need to find a job and I couldn’t find a job that summer. And it seemed like everywhere. I asked doors were just getting shut in my face left and right. Like I wasn’t good enough. I wasn’t good enough. I mean, I even went to like the TGI Fridays across the street and like tried to apply to be a hostess and they were like, No girl. So yeah, I had a lot of tears that summer of like, Am I doing the wrong thing? Is it time for me to go home and my like over Extending myself. And then that’s actually when I ended up with a retail job. But unfortunately, I had to commute to New Jersey for that. So it was like, wow. Like if I’m a real sign person, big city, yeah, nowhere in the city wanted to give me a chance. So my boyfriend at the time, no, my husband actually was living for his job in New Jersey, and we would commute to see each other anyway. So the one weekend when I was there seeing him I was like, I’m just walking into the local mall, and I’m gonna get the first job that they offer because I just need money at this point. And I did and it was for like, Gymboree, like a kid’s clothing brand, you know, working as like the like, you know, sales girl. And that’s what I did that summer. And it was, I mean, it was it. Like now that I see my story, like it definitely was working for me. But at the time, I was like, this, what am I doing, like so much? That I felt better than that. At the time. I was like, I have so much to offer, you know, and the fact that I’m just here working like a cash register. I just felt like I was made for more and but now looking back it definitely it was a teaching moment. Yeah, yeah.

Hutson 11:13
So you go into Jamboree, you do your thing you keep on going, when? When would you? When do you get your first big girl job, as you said following

Adrianne 11:20
summer, believe it or not like so like, yeah, full circle. And this blows my mind to this day, I went and being so close to senior year, I was just stuck on the fact that I needed a real internship that was going to pay me hourly, and that it was going to lead to something. And I was just applying for things left and right, left and right, left and right. This one kept popping up. And they were emailing back and forth. And I don’t even when I applied for it. I was like, I really don’t really want to work for this company. But I need a job. I’ve seen where I was the summer before I just I can’t Beggars can’t be choosers, you know, can’t be picky. So they actually, like got back to me. And they wanted me to come in for the interview. And I even remember walking to the interview, and I called my boyfriend now husband and I was like, I don’t want to go like I really don’t want to work for them. Like should I and he’s like would just go, just go. So I go anyway, long story short, that turns into a full time job before I even graduated. So I was an assistant design designer full time, my junior year, and carrying my full time credits in college. And so I worked for them for about five years. Before I left.

Hutson 12:36
It took a lot of chances. Yeah, a lot of tries to get to get there. Finally, yeah, what kept you going? I mean, I’m thinking about coming from a small town different than most people. Sounds like you had some support from family. But I don’t know if it sounds like was maybe full support to a degree, right? And you’re getting shut down continuously for a lot of people. They’d like maybe this isn’t, maybe someone’s telling me that this is not right. Maybe I should try something different. What kept you going on the same drain the same path? I’m

Adrianne 13:08
just really being in tune to myself and what was on my heart and knowing that? Well, I’m very driven. And when I’m faced with adversity, I want to prove people wrong, like so I think more than anything that probably was it was like, I’m not going to fail. Like I will do everything in my power not to fail. And I really had passion for what I was doing. So that’s what kept me and knowing that it was right for me because I loved it. But I didn’t understand why I wasn’t being met, you know, with the same chance, I guess, or whatever. You know,

Hutson 13:47
when you mentioned that you weren’t gonna fail, although you were failing a lot. Yeah,

Adrianne 13:52
I mean, no. So

Hutson 13:53
I want to I want to talk about that, though. We talk a lot about failure. We talk a lot about, you know, growth mindset and growing from failure. I’m curious in that timeframe, you can think back on it. Did the How did those failures, either a prepare you for much further down the road? Or how do they how did you look at those failures and learn from them to finally get the job or move forward? Well,

Adrianne 14:14
I think they truly humbled me, because if I wasn’t failing, I think I I definitely would have thought that more was for me. And when like just thinking back on that summer, if I wasn’t humbled into just making money just working like it’s not going to be the fashion job, you think it’s going to be you’re going to be working sales. I think if I didn’t have that I wouldn’t have been open to the next thing. And so that’s kind of when it comes to that other job. The full time job was, you know, I didn’t want to go I didn’t want to take it and I probably would have ignored the emails it had it had that failure of the summer. Yeah, so I wasn’t It made me more open. And then it’s kind of one of those things like don’t judge a book by its cover. And that was that job for me is I was judging it. But when I got into it, and I was around those people, I loved it. I didn’t want to leave, like, you know, and it actually propelled my career. Yeah, yeah.

Hutson 15:17
So how long have you New York for

Adrianne 15:21
New York as a whole? We live there for almost 12 years. Long time. Yes.

Hutson 15:26
What brought you out of New York,

Adrianne 15:28
an opportunity for my husband’s job. So that was kind of devastating, because it was an opportunity we couldn’t pass up. And I, like I said, with the other jobs, I was just excelling. I was getting promotion after promotion opportunity after opportunity. He jokes I was the sugar mama, like, I was doing well, and I was proud. And I felt like I was on the cusp of like, so much potential in my career, and but we both are, like Type A go getters. And this was something that he was being presented with. And we had to move and we had to move to Charleston. And oh my gosh, I went through like a midlife crisis with that it was absolutely devastating. But I remember I had a mentor. At my job at the time, good friend, I had actually worked with her with my at my first job. And she had brought me over to the next company that I was with the last one I was at before leaving New York. And I just remember going to her and crying on her shoulder and was like You won’t believe where we’re going. We’re going to Charleston. And she was like, grabbed me by the shoulders. And she’s like, either? No, this is wonderful. Like, first of all, have you ever been to Charleston? And I was like, No, embarrassingly enough, no, she was like, Oh, my God, you’re gonna love it there. But on top of that, like take this as an opportunity to truly find yourself like with his situation I financially didn’t have to work. So it was a moment of like, being able to truly find what I really wanted to do deep down inside. And so I looked at her like she was crazy at the time, like any what, find myself, I found myself. True. I mean, looking back to with the career in New York, it was rough. You know, I loved what I was doing. But it was a rat race. And long nights, and I had some health issues that were popping up just because of the stress levels I was under. And so I think there was a little voice when she said that, but also at the same time. I was like, I don’t know how I’m going to approach this because how do I tell my family back home that, you know, I had just gotten married at the time so it was like, Oh, here we go. Like because they were raising me to be this like independent girl they wanted me to be able to like I don’t need no man like all that stuff. And here I’m going to be like, Yeah, I got I just got married. But guess what, now we’re moving and like Charleston was never in their wheelhouse either. So you’re going where and how far away and we even this, you’re not even going to work. So now you’re just going to be come a housewife, you know, like type of thing. And so I also like the other side of me was like, how am I going to tell my family that this is what we’re going to do? And you know, they have looking back have been supportive, but they’re always apprehensive, which I think any family member probably is because they’re really concerned about your well being but yeah, so that led us to Charleston. And from there, I took some freelancing gigs, which is like how I ended up at Abercrombie and I got pregnant so I also was using this as like, Okay, I’m going to make our house like everything I couldn’t do in the city because I was working long hours. Like he was the one cooking dinner for us. I was coming home, I was just like spent and then I’d get up at six o’clock and go to work again. And it was just like this hamster wheel. And so I’m like, okay, Annie, maybe you’re right, like, I’ll be the one that like, makes dinner and I’ll like, step into my wifely role and whatever and then we’ll start a family. And I No sooner had my first son, and he was like six weeks old. And I was like, oh, no, this is not for me at all. This is not for me. I can’t sit still like I need to hit benchmarks for my own personal growth. And I tried blogging a little bit and like I’m like, how do people do this? Like how do you get yourself out there SEO like all that tech stuff that like I can’t figure out and I think I was like shopping one night for my son on and it was like when Instagram first started. So it was like, you know, everybody knows Etsy but people started bringing their brands over to Instagram I found my I’m like, oh yes, this is this stuff I want not the stuff that’s like in the stores right now with the baseballs and the construction logos and the dinosaurs. This is the stuff that I want for my son. So I was like buying it. And then one night when I was up with him, I’m sitting there and you know, feeding him and I’m like, wait a minute, like light bulb? What? Why am I giving them my money when like, I’m qualified, I’m very much qualified to do what they’re doing. Like they’re just moms that are, and I don’t know, their background, so I can’t speak to it. But

Hutson 20:33
what background which means that you write what

Adrianne 20:35
it looked like, to me, it’s like, well, heck, like I can do this. Like, why not just see what happens. And that’s kind of like how everything started. For me for the, for the business, I just, I sat with it for a few more days, the idea of it and kind of figured out in my head, okay, if I’m going to do this, what’s it going to cost? Kind of a rough draft of a business plan. And one night after my husband came home from work, I’m like, Alright, look, this is what I have in mind. This is what I want to do. I’m not doing anything anyways. And when he’s napping, you know, I think I’m going to start working on this. What do you think? And I like gave him some rough sketches of like, a couple shirts and a couple pants for boys, little boys. And I was like, What do you think? And he was like, I think that’s great. Go ahead, how much is it gonna cost and I was like, I told him the number and I was like, but it’s my money from working freelancing. It’s my money, so like, won’t cut into our bottom line or anything. And if I lose it, I lose it like, you know, and yeah, the rest is history. Honestly,

Hutson 21:39
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Adrianne 22:36
really wasn’t looking back, it was not filling my cup at all, like I was what was filling my cup was I was successful. And I was achieving things on paper and hitting all the marks. But when I went home at night and lay my head down, there was something missing. And is this it? And I’m going to do I mean, I really had a moment where I was like, Is this what I’m going to do for the rest of my life type of thing. And so in a way, it was like a blessing in disguise that we had this opportunity to move down here because it forced me out of that. Like it literally talked me out of the hamster wheel where I probably would have just kept going. And who knows, like I said, I had some health issues that were coming up. And it’s like, Where would that have? I was like 27 or eight when we left New York. And coming here. Clearly, this is a slower pace of life than New York City. So I had time to like, it all kind of came like a wave and compounded on me. And I’m like, wow, what the heck just happened. It just felt like a really fast life. And like I said, I moved there when I was 18. And here I am moving to Charleston at 20. So matter of 10 years. And I felt like I had lived like 20 or 30 because of how hard we were working. And it was never ending. And that’s the only thing about New York that I don’t think I was prepared for coming from such a small town as Kate May, is that it’s never enough. And you’re just and then finally something has to give whether it’s you or you know, the job or because that’s the other thing is I got out right before the industry kind of crashed, the economy crashed and what’s the first thing to go is like, you know, clothing like people aren’t. So layoffs were happening and stuff. So who knows what my the rest of my career would have looked like? I definitely probably think I would have been faced with some hard times. And then I’d rather the decision be that we had to move for an opportunity then it’d be we had to move out because we couldn’t do it anymore. You know? Yeah. Or even afford the city. So my

Hutson 24:42
son my wife went to school for early childhood education, and her dream was to run a preschool and she was able to she got that job and did it for two years and it was very similar story in that worked her tail off beginning and came home spent everything doing what she wanted to do or thought she wanted to do. And it wasn’t until realizing this, this isn’t filling my cup. It’s not allowing me to live the life and all the other things that I value all my life roles are getting wiped away, I’m only focusing on one. Yeah. And it’s killing me that she finally got out. And she’s doing something different, similar indication. But the point is, it makes me think about your story and how we have these seven life roles of work and wealth and health and faith and family and community and these things. And we tend, especially in America, we tend to focus on work, and work is where we put our value and our worth often. And even when you have all these successes, and it seems like everything’s great in reality. I don’t speak for you. But it sounds like maybe health wasn’t something you were really putting time and energy into and family or all these other things. Really, I

Adrianne 25:55
didn’t have time for anything else. Yeah, but work. And yeah, that’s the whole thing is I knew as much as I prioritized work, I knew that I also wanted a family and I wanted to travel and I wanted to be able to do these other things. And it was starting to get aid from getting married, you know, I think it automatically puts in mind, okay, the bigger picture of like, well, where are we going to go from here? We’re not just going to work for the rest of our lives and be like roommates, like we want to, we want to have kids and we want to do all these other things. And I started thinking to myself, you know, what? Do I want to raise kids in New York City? And what does that look like? And if we don’t raise them in New York City, then where do we move to what suburb that’s close enough for the commute. And then who’s actually raising my kids, I’m going to have the kids but then a nanny is going to raise my kids because I’m at work till 11 o’clock at night. And he’s putting my kids to bed and all of that stuff. So in a way, yeah. It everything happens for a reason, right? Yeah, it’s kind of crazy.

Hutson 27:04
It is. And I think, you know, the life rolls for us is such a big piece of the puzzle. We think about goals, and you set your goals and you reach your goals. I mean, you’re you like you said, you’re driven from an early age, you knew exactly what you wanted. And you and you, you learn from all your failures, and you achieve those goals. But I think oftentimes as a culture and society and even parents in schools we don’t think about, but what are our goals for all these areas of our life, because it’s all who makes us human. And all of these areas, not just work, and not just family, and not just whatever, right? All of them make us who we are. And when we put focus and emphasis on one, that means we’re not going to leave like continued focus. We talked about putting focus for a quarter. But for continued year after your focus, it gets left behind and we feel empty inside. Right. Sounds like you found some balance in Charleston after you moved and decided to start launch the business. So let’s talk a little bit about that. Yeah, take me through the early stages and how that was and were you able to find more balance and what that looked like for you. Um,

Adrianne 28:15
so yeah, so it’s, like I said, it started with me running the idea through my husband, and then I hit the ground running pretty much and during every nap time, and even when he my son went to bed at night, I’d be in my office working and I started my Instagram and started putting stuff on there and people started purchasing. And so then I built my website and wanted to veer away from it. So kind of it was left to my own devices to market myself. And one thing led to another and to be completely honest with you, when I tell my story, the first year is a blur because it snowballed so quickly, that I think I was in survival mode to a certain extent. And I started my business in December of 2013, filed and made it a real LLC by January 2014. And by March or April, it was completely out of control. Like I was doing a lot of the manufacturing myself, I was sewing everything doing all the pattern work and all of that because I didn’t think it would really, I don’t know get off the ground that quickly. And by April, I found myself behind a sewing machine, bawling my eyes out crying because my husband would be taking he’s like, Well, what are we going to do this weekend? I’m like, Well, I have 24 outstanding orders. And the lead time on my orders were like two weeks and at this rate that I’m going it’s more like six or eight weeks and who the heck is buying anything for their child, the outside, they’re out, they’ve outgrown it. So he was really, really supportive in the fact that like, he was like, Okay, I’m gonna, I’m going to take eight, and he was like only six months old at the time, but he was like, I’m going to take it into the aquarium and like, whatever. And I remember that afternoon, I was bawling. And I was like, I’m missing out on this. Right, exactly. Exactly, exactly. Like, what am I doing? What am I doing? And what is it worth, I’m missing time with my son. Again, my firstborn, like, this is everything I’ve wanted. Something’s gotta give. So me being me, went into my rolodex. And like, I know people, like I let start contacting people. So I started shooting out emails. Because in my career previously, in New York, I did a lot of traveling. So I knew a lot of manufacturers and industry, people that did all of this. So I’m like, let’s just see if they’ll, like, help me out here. And again, I got a lot of doors closed in my face, because I couldn’t meet certain minimums because while my business was growing substantially, it still was meeting these 1000s of, you know, units that these people wanted in order to even you know, start cutting fabric for me. But I found somebody because I was persistent. And I found somebody out in LA. And I took him on and raised my price a little bit, my retail and in order to account for him and started finding balance that way. So that’s when I really realized that if I’m going to do this, I need to outsource work smarter, not harder, you know. And so from there, by the following year, I ended up with a publicist, I had celebrities, kids wearing my clothing. i The following year, I guess it was maybe a couple years after that. But I started blogging actually in 2015, at the recommendation of my publicists, because again, it was at the forefront of this, I don’t know what they call this movement of people starting their own, but this small business thing of social media, going hand in hand with that she was like, people want to make that connection with small business. They want to know the story they want to know. You know, they want that connection. So she encouraged me to start a blog, and I had found out that I was pregnant with my second son, Hudson. And they were like, We want to see your nursery. We want to see what baby products you’re purchasing for him and all of that stuff. And that’s what really built my

Hutson 32:34
blog that didn’t exist back then. I

Adrianne 32:35
didn’t know what I was doing. But it was I just wanted them to buy my kids clothing. Like I didn’t realize what I was doing. I just thought I was giving them a glimpse into

Hutson 32:46
us and then once ran on accident. Yes,

Adrianne 32:48
yes. And that’s what’s so bizarre when I do talk about the story is like, I don’t really understand how this all kind of happened to me, but we’re doing it, you know, but I had him and then the focus started shifting to how are you doing this? Like your brand didn’t miss a beat the clothing brand and Miss miss a beat? You’re still shipping on time, you’re still doing all this stuff? And it seems like it’s growing even more with media attention. But you have to under to at home. Girl, how are you doing? Like we need to know. And so I guess I just started I started doing blog posts on that stuff, that that type of stuff of how I was juggling it all because it kind of opened up a thing for other people to be like you can still pursue your dreams or pursue your passion projects while raising your kids at home that you don’t have to do an MLM. You know what I mean? Like you can you can whatever you put your heart to you can do it with your kids, and why not bring them along for the ride? Yeah, so yeah, that’s what we did. And we might, the brand kind of grew through word of mouth, again, celebrities, through my publicist, my celebrities were wearing the brand. So that brought a lot of like attention to the brand and to my Instagram account. And then I randomly one day, got an email from Joanna Gaines, his team to bring my brand to her silos. It was the first time they opened up the silos and they were doing like some sort of fair fall fair, I think, fall at the silos and they recognize and I was like, wait, what level? So like, I went to my point. I’m like, Did you do any? And she was like, No, I didn’t. That’s when I realized that like, things spread like wildfire. And so I ended up going there about four times and was then getting to see firsthand because it’s so hard to do it behind. You know the computer you’re not meeting your customer in real life. You’re just shipping things and People are saying what they say on on social media, but you’re not really getting to meet your customer and see who’s wearing your clothing. And that was like the first time that I got to, like, interact with, yeah, from across the country. They were coming in and they would come and they were like, you’d understand my young my oldest warrior stuff. And now my like, third, Warren’s wearing your stuff, and the quality, so great. And this and you were I was getting the feedback firsthand. And it just was like, mind blowing for me.

Hutson 35:27
And super rewarding. I’m imagining very different work. And that’s probably a big difference to degree, right.

Adrianne 35:32
And of course, like I said, having my two boys like I was facing a little bit of burnout too, because I’m like, gosh, you know, I sometimes I just want to be a mom. And when you’re your own business and your own your own boss, when does it stop and never stops? At least when you’re in the office and you go home, you can leave it at the door, or you tried to. But when you’re your own boss like it, you feel like every time every little moment is wasted? Well, I could be doing this. I could be doing that. Yes. So I was starting to feel a little bit of burnout. But I knew that I was lucky in the sense that I wasn’t doing what I was doing in New York. So like, I still am in control. I’m the one in control. But I had to, like have a come to Jesus moment for sure of like, it’s okay to throttle down sometimes. Yeah.

Hutson 36:18
Did you put guardrails up for yourself? Or how did? How’d you help yourself from continuing into burnout? It sounds like you were able to recognize it easier and better than when you were in New York, probably because you have kids, you can see burnout in real life. But how did you put up some guardrails? Did you and your husband Todd, have a mentor or a coach? Like what did you do to help help yourself to not not continue down that path or did to stay inside our lanes?

Adrianne 36:45
i My husband and I were very close. So he definitely I would say, like kind of operated like a mentor for me. So I’d always run things through him. And he’s always a fixer. So he’s like, look, let’s hire people. So I hired he actually put out like a call for interns the one summer and I had like high school, high school girls in the neighborhood that came in and helped me college girls from SCAD came in to help me, I hired virtual assistants to help me on the social media side and the blogging side. Just to free up time to do what I really wanted to do, which was design. Because all of the nitty gritty and behind the scenes to just keep the business running, I was like not my cup of tea to happen, but not what you wanted exactly was not my cup of tea, I wanted the creative side and not the other side. So that’s kind of what I did. And then the pandemic happen. So unfortunately, that was like a hard stop, because people were not buying clothing. And the clothing side of it kind of fell by the wayside. But I always say for this part in my story is the pendulum swung. So here, I was not realizing it. But I was building a second business, the blogging, the influencing the creating. And that’s what then took the stage during you know, 2020. And today was our family became the brand, it was no longer about the clothing. That’s what started it. But now it’s the family. And obviously our family grew. So I had a third son, and then surprise, surprise, the ending happy ending my daughter. And so now I’m a mom of four. And it’s like, I can’t juggle all these balls, like something’s gotta give. And so in a way, that’s why when we were speaking beforehand about the divine intervention, it’s almost like Well, here we go, could I have still kept running my business with the product base, but you need to really be like, super present for that. Or now I’m doing I’m creating content for brands, big brands that like I’ve used my entire life. And that’s super easy. And I can still be here and present for my four kids when they need me. So what really sticks out for me, I read a book, actually by Joanna Gaines, a couple years ago, and her story is kind of eerily similar in the fact that she had her children and she had her little store and she had to close the door on the store because her four kids needed her. And she kind of had a little voice that was like, Don’t worry, there’s bigger plans after this. Just be a mom be present for your kids. And she was and then knock knock knock, you know, she was blogging and somebody HGTV was like, Hey, let’s do a pilot for this show. And we all know where she ended up. So I think about that often is that my biggest opportunities and my what I look at as my biggest successes were during times of stillness, where I just let whatever come to me and figure it out that way instead of like trying to actively push up this hill and pursue and pursue and pursue and then kind of, it’s harder, you know?

Hutson 40:05
Well, I think that’s to me that that’s the a huge No, no, a lesson for a lot of us is that all the doors closing, which you live in New York was a door closing to fashion for a lot of in many ways it basically every way. Yes. And the pandemic happening is the door closing in every way for your business that you started and your baby and all those kinds of Yeah, real baby. But yeah, this is baby. Yes,

Adrianne 40:30
it was my first baby. Yeah. Second baby. Yeah, right. But Aiden came first, I

Hutson 40:35
guess. But if you look at those as opportunities and stillness versus why this is happening to me what I worked so hard for this, what am I gonna do now? And there’s two ways to look at that. And you’ve chosen to look at them as opportunities, which is not always normal.

Adrianne 40:49
But I’ve had my moments I do Sure, yeah, but but you’ve used

Hutson 40:53
those as opportunities. And, you know, we talk about growth mindset, as he said before, and you could say, you can grow through failure, but you also grow through these seemingly bad opportunities, and you’ve grown to new a new version of yourself first, and is probably closer to the version of the person that you want to be New York was, in some ways, taking your way. And yeah, probably even running the business as the clothing even though it sounds like was going well, eventually was gonna probably run you. Well,

Adrianne 41:18
it’s funny, because I actually had the same thought with both of them. And it was, is this, what I’m gonna have to keep doing forever. So while I’ve really enjoyed the clothing brand, and starting something from scratch, and watching it grow, I did have my thoughts in the, in the slug of it. Oh, my God, I have to keep coming up with collections. I have to keep the people excited and wanting them to keep purchasing and whatever. And it was like, Okay, here we go again,

Hutson 41:47
just what I want. Yeah. So it’s so interesting. With our framework. The beauty of it is I think it goal setting. And you’ve like we said, you reach your goals, like there’s no question about that, is that oftentimes our goals are to nearsighted, even if they’re 15 years away, because then when you do them and you get there, you’re like, is this it? Is this the goal that I wanted? And I reach it? Because I did now what? versus saying, Well, what if it? What if, when I die, how do I what I want my work legacy to be. So then when you you reach a little moment, it’s even there five or 10 years away? It’s not like, oh, gosh, why am I what do I do now? It’s like, well, this is one step to the greater picture, right? Negative picture changes for us always. But having that picture allows for it sounds like you’ve been grounded enough to be able to and fortunate enough, I’m sure you’d say the same Yes, to have these pivots. And they continue to help you grow in the person you want to be. What we want to do is like, you know, talk through how to help folks in all areas, not just work, but say, Okay, well, is this helping me be the person I want to be? And if not, why? And what do I need to do to correct that path, which sounds like you and your husband have had a good relationship to where you can have those conversations or allow for those moments to happen to bring back to Monroe Central. He’s a pendulum and makes me think of swinging back to the middle, almost, of staying on the path because we always swing we’re gonna always swing exactly in life, but having folks around having opportunities to come back to the middle, but we don’t know the middle is we can’t hit the middle, right? That’s sure. Yeah. And I sounds like you whether it’s on paper, or you thought about it fully, it sounds like you, you do know the person you want to be whether it’s as a mom or as a spouse, or as a sister or daughter or whatever, as an employee, or as a business owner, or whatever, you know, what you want to be, even though sometimes it sounds like it’s happened serendipitously or, you know, with divine intervention. Yeah. Yeah. And so the brand’s now you in the fam, to a degree.

Adrianne 43:50
Yeah. So another interesting thing is that what I always saw back then, at 12 years old, designing my what I thought was my brand. I always saw myself as a mom, too. So I wanted the house with the kids and I wanted to work from home, I didn’t want to go to an office and one of them close with me. And really, another goal achieved in my mind is the fact that I’ve taken them with me through all of this. So the clothing brand was started because of my son, Aiden. And then our family grew and through it all, they’ve been with me for the ride the entire way. And so as long as that continues, I’m happy like I’m achieving my personal goals. Whatever that ends up looking like in the future couple years from now, because who knows? Obviously my what I do is social media base at this point in time social media can change. Do I no longer have I don’t know. I don’t know I can no longer be relevant but as long as you know, they’re with me through it all. Oh, I’m good. Yeah.

Hutson 45:02
And you said you love to travel have a child with a family.

Adrianne 45:05
Love traveling with the family? Yes. So we did a lot of it pre pandemic with our two boys. And then we got back into it last year, and we’re hoping this year we’re going to do more of it. So what

Hutson 45:18
does it look like for you and your family travel together? Are you all like adventurers when you go? Do you mix in relaxation? What kind of travelers are y’all?

Adrianne 45:26
Oh, well, a little bit of both. So we always kind of have some agenda of things to achieve. But then we yeah, we we love to just take in. I don’t really like to like over plan, my travel or vacations. It’s never really it doesn’t really feel like a vacation with kids. Right? You’re just kind of living elsewhere. But yeah, we don’t plan our days or anything we like to explore and all that stuff. But yeah,

Hutson 45:57
your kids enjoy traveling.

Adrianne 45:59
They love traveling. They I mean, they’ve all gotten bitten by the bug. They my daughter especially is like when are we going to the next time? She’s like, four, and she’s like packing her bags when she plays and she’s like, I’m going to a hotel tonight.

Hutson 46:14
Okay, awesome and scary at the same time.

Adrianne 46:17
It is scary. I know. We’re creating a monster.

Hutson 46:20
That’s been your favorite place of hard travel with your family.

Adrianne 46:23
So we did Spain and Iceland this past summer and we are like hit hard by Spain.

Hutson 46:30
We’re gonna be we’re gonna be in Madrid and the end of March. I’m

Adrianne 46:34
jealous. Yeah, Madrid is our favorite. If we could live in Madrid, we’d live there one day in

Hutson 46:40
Madrid to me is the most European Madrid it sounds ridiculous. European Spanish city. Yeah. Makes me feel like other European places, which I Yeah.

Adrianne 46:49
And it’s funny because the minute we landed in Madrid, and like, she’s back, like, I love that city life. But Madrid is so amazing. Because you can hit up Valencia within an hour. And, you know, it’s just the people and the food. You know, like all the things and my kids absolutely adored it. So if we ever got an opportunity to live abroad, I think we have family would take it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But Iceland was pretty cool to

Hutson 47:16
know. I didn’t on the list. I we our family loves to explore the trip. Oh, the hike.

Adrianne 47:22
We do hikes. Yeah, Iceland perfect.

Hutson 47:25
Yeah, I love cultures and cities. I love both, of course. But yeah, we find with our aged kids. It’s easy to be like playing a hike and then chill, right? Yeah, we’re being active, and we’re conquering something together.

Adrianne 47:38
And then they get tired. And they’re a little more snow.

Hutson 47:42
Like, how do you find time to like, you know, hike in Madrid around like playing a little path to Concord? Yeah, to get somewhere. But ya know, I’m excited for it. I’m glad that I’m glad that your kids love traveling. It’s, it’s a big part of my wife and our wife as well. And, you know, I can’t imagine not doing it with my kids. Like you said, Bring him along. And it is hard.

Adrianne 48:03
It’s Oh, for sure. Yeah. And I think we’ve done it so much now that I like don’t focus on the hard parts anymore. It is what it is. I just feel like they’re going to act the way they’re going to act. Regardless if we’re home or traveling or somewhere else. Or be in like Madrid, you know them and deal with their crap there then, you know, at home, but yeah, yeah,

Hutson 48:23
well, right, exactly. And whether they’re here, they’re not going to be better there. I think I exactly deal with their minds. Like, hey, let me try what’s like our best behavior like, Well, why is the opposite of life?

Adrianne 48:35
Well, realize, like how we act as adults when we travel. So if it was just me and my husband, we’d probably be at each other’s throats a little bit too, because it’s straight travel is stressful. So how can we expect our kids to be perfect? You know, they’re not going to they’re going to they’re going to be a little tense.

Hutson 48:52
But so do you and your children have a knack for fashion? A love for fashion?

Adrianne 48:56
I think my daughter does. Yeah. And then I it’s funny, my son, Hudson, my second born he he’s a big soccer guy. But that boy knows how to dress.

Hutson 49:09
In the soccer culture in Europe.

Adrianne 49:12
Exactly. He loves his shoes and hid all his kits and stuff. So yeah, I think he got bit by the fashion bug, too.

Hutson 49:18
That’s a trip. Yeah. Well, thanks so much for your time today.

Adrianne 49:23
Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Episode 1:

Unveiling Resilience: Navigating Life’s Challenges with Katie Bryant

Katie Bryant, Founder of Fresh Fit Kate

We are kicking off season 2 by sitting down with Katie Bryant, a dedicated holistic health practitioner and wellness coach. Katie’s advocacy for women’s health shines through as she shares her personal journey of triumph over adversity, including her battle with severe depression. Through candid conversation and heartfelt reflections, Katie offers valuable strategies for building resilience and navigating life’s challenges with grace and courage. Join us as we discover how embracing vulnerability can lead to profound growth and transformation.

Katie Bryant is a holistic health practitioner, a wellness coach, and the Founder of Fresh Fit Kate. Follow her on Instagram @freshfitkate

Hutson 0:13
Welcome to the joy and goal setting podcast where we empower individuals to discover their purpose, achieve their goals and experienced a joyful life through encouraging conversation. I’m your host Hudson DODDS. Today we’re sitting down with Katie Bryan. Katie is a wellness coach, business owner and a mother of three. We discussed finding accountability, overcoming depression, and how your past challenges can fuel your future success.

Katie, welcome to the show. I’m so glad you’re here.

Katie 0:47
Thank you for having me.

Hutson 0:48
Yeah. So when the new year something you’ve been asking folks is something that you’re really excited about for the year for 2024. And, and or maybe one thing that’s a little causing little nervousness or uneasiness about about the new year? Okay,

Katie 1:05
um, well, I’m really excited that first is just a new year. I know a lot of people are like, well, you know, all about not setting resolutions. And you know, not looking at this as a new start. But I love to look at it as like a fresh new start. We’ve just been given a brand new year to live. And I feel like that’s a gift. I just love fresh start new start. I get excited about it. And so I just love the energy of of that. As far as being nervous about anything. I feel like I am a little bit of I love to be a planner, and I love to have control over things. And I’ve learned a lot through this life that that’s that’s not always how life works out. And so learning to just trust where I’m going in this life.

Hutson 1:55
Yeah, yeah, we love. I mean, it’s control is a good thing and a bad thing. We love being control, because that also helps us have expectations and all those things. But also, if you want to control everything, you inevitably you get let down. Yeah. Right. And we can’t possibly control everything, which is causes stress and anxieties. Yeah. Which we need more of No, or is that like perfect mixture, right of like controlling what you can control we talk about and then things you can’t control, like letting go. And, you know, when those things happen, well, so where are you from? And what college you go to? And yeah, what do you what are you doing now?

Katie 2:32
So I’m originally from Rochester, New York, and looks very different from Charleston, South Carolina. But I’ve been living here for a little over five years. And I love it here. I hope God intends on keeping me here because I don’t ever want to leave. I went to college, I started off my college career at Keuka College, which is a very small private school in New York on a beautiful lake. scenery is like movie scene, and then furthered my education later on in life through IEHP, which I’m sure we’ll probably talk a little bit further down the road. Yeah, so I live here with my family. And doing now. I am so originally, I’ve I’ve had a lot of jobs. But originally, I kind of started this journey 10 years ago, in the health and wellness field as I started my own personal journey, and led me to what I’m doing today, which I’m a holistic health practitioner. So I work one on one with women. Awesome. Yeah.

Hutson 3:39
Cool. Well, I started 10 years ago, then you jumped into this health space. Yeah. Were you someone that growing up that was always fascinated by health and wellness? How did that come to be for you?

Katie 3:51
Um, no, I was not. I, I didn’t live an unhealthy life. I was really active person. But no, I really wasn’t, you know, too much into health and wellness. I actually wanted to originally went to school, because I wanted to get into deaf education. And then I ended up going into sports management. And then I ended up I got engaged when I was in college. My husband and I were I was 20 at the time. And a year later I found out I was pregnant and our wedding wasn’t actually until two years after our engagement. And that kind of changed everything. And so my focus was more on becoming a mom and I started working nights at that time. And my husband worked during the day so that we could raise our children at home. So I did that for almost 10 years. And during this time after I had my daughter I was diagnosed with postpartum depression I ended up having My boys, they’re all very well, my kids are all very close in age, they’re less than two years apart, and ended up being put on a good amount of medication for depression and anxiety. And I was, didn’t know this at the time, but I was on a combination of medications I should not have been on. And so I was,

it was pretty bad, I was having suicidal thoughts. And that was something never in a million years that I ever think I would end up having or thinking.

But I actually had, how it was going to take my life all planned out. And before that was going to happen, it was going to happen right before I went to work. And I just got on my knees. And I was just pleading and begging God that if I wasn’t meant to do this, that something would happen to stop me prevent this, but I didn’t know how to make it stop. I had gone to my doctors, I had seeked all the help that I knew to seek. And I just the only way I can explain it as I just wanted it to stop. And I really felt like everybody in my life would be better without me. And I got literally got up from my knees, and my daughter burst it through my bedroom door. And she’s not a crier. She’s still not a crier today. And she just grabbed on to me and started crying until me she didn’t want me to leave. And then my boys followed and they were holding on to me, and they were just like, Please don’t go, please don’t go. And I just fell into a puddle of tears and my husband came home from work, we typically literally passed in the driveway. And I would say hi goodbye, I would head to work. And I wasn’t in the driveway when he got home. And so he came upstairs to see what was going on. And I let him know what was happening at that time. I ended up being hospitalized for a week, which I thought would be a great thing. Maybe I would finally get the help that I needed. But instead I left there more heavily medicated than when I got there. Yeah. And I lived my life, it’s it is kind of a blur to me, which I hate saying, because it was a part of my life that my my children were growing. But a lot of it’s a blur. Just because I was on so much. And that’s when I started to turn to food and alcohol because it made me feel something. And so I had never been overweight, I never had dealt with any issues when it came to being overweight, but five, six years of turning to food and alcohol, you gain weight. So I found myself heavily medicated and obese. And I was just like, I cannot believe this is my life. Yeah. And I just remember just like constantly begging and pleading God, like please help me change my life. And I just remember thinking like, this is how I guess it’s always going to be. And then there was just a part where I was on vacation with my family. And I just remember going I there was a something that happened. And I went back to the hotel room by myself and I basically shut the curtains and I sobbed in the bed and I said I can’t live my life like this. When we go back home, I have to figure out how to change my life. And it was just making that decision that I was going to do whatever it took to not live my life like this anymore.

Hutson 8:53
Were you still heavily medicated at that time? Yes. And I didn’t know

Katie 8:57
how I was not going to be that, you know, heavily medicated and didn’t even know what that was going to look like.

Hutson 9:05
Would you say that was the first time since that all began? Since the postpartum and all everything that you mentally made it made committed to yourself to making a change. I mean, it sounds like there are many times where you want it to change I want it to was that the first time you committed to yourself like no, I’m actually going to find a way I don’t have a way but I’m going to find that way. Yes.

Katie 9:28
I ended up having this dream. I’m not a dreamer. At all, like I’ve had like probably a few dreams I can actually remember. But it was the type of dream where you wake up and you sit in your bed and you were like, This is real. Did this really happen or not really happen? But I just felt like in this dream I was I was laying down. It was super bright. I couldn’t open my eyes. I saw this hand I grabbed a hold of it. It felt like it was like I needed to get out of where I was and When I woke up, I felt like oh my gosh. Like, I’ve been doing this all wrong. I felt like at that moment, I had been begging and pleading God to change my life and like, magically make that happen.

Hutson 10:15
Like a genie. Yeah, no, no, rub the lamp. Come on and do it for me. Yeah. And I

Katie 10:19
felt like at that moment was like, You need to take a hold of my hand and do the work with me. And it was done where I was like, Okay, I’m gonna figure this out. Yeah. And like I said, I didn’t know how it was gonna figure it out. But I had a feeling and just a confidence that I was gonna figure it out. Yeah,

Hutson 10:36
it’s amazing. It’s amazing when we tell ourselves, I don’t need statements or positive statements or anything, how it how it can? Scientifically we know it changes, it can change our life. 100%. And it sounds like for you, that’s absolutely true. So committed yourself that something’s going to change. Don’t know what Yeah, it’s going to happen. How did you kind of climb out of that, that space you’re in to continue actually making change versus kind of spiraling back into depression? It was hard.

Katie 11:13
I want to tell you, it’s like I made the decision and smooth sailing from there. But it wasn’t. But I had two choices. I could keep living the life I was living, or I could choose differently. And I want it to choose differently. So I really had to look at, okay, what are all the things that I’m doing in my life that are not serving me, and are keeping me in the place that I’m in? I knew being on all these medications was one of the issues. And so I knew I was going to have to figure out like how to start getting off of those. I’m not against medication or anything like that. But I don’t think most of the time it’s a band aid. Yeah. And,

Hutson 11:57
and cause is not actually being being figured

Katie 12:00
out. Yeah. And I want it the tools, I wanted to figure it out on how to get there without the band aid anymore. So I really had to, like, take an honest look at my life. And there were a lot of things I was doing that were self destructive, specially in my mindset, I hung out and surrounded myself with people that were negative, because I was negative. And so it just made me feel better to be negative with other negative people. And that was not good. You know, that wasn’t serving me that wasn’t getting me to the place I want it to be. And I knew that was one thing that really had to change, which was hard, because some of those people I was really close with in my life. And you know, love them, right? Yeah, but just didn’t love what? I was allowing it to our

Hutson 12:48
house and the person that you’re becoming they it was not the person you wanted to become and they weren’t helping you. Yeah.

Katie 12:53
And I wasn’t strong enough to like, be around people like that and not affect Yeah, sure. So that was one thing. Another thing I realized during this time was, Wow, I am not nice to myself. And that’s got to change. The things that I thought about myself the things I said out loud. I would never say to anybody ever not even like my world, like worst enemy, you know, and I was like, that’s got to change. I can’t talk to myself like this anymore. Like, that’s not okay. So I really had to figure that out. And this is when I first really learned about self development and personal development. I was like, Okay, I need help strengthening this area. I don’t know how to do that. So I started turning to books and audio books to help me figure that out. And so there were a lot of things I needed to strengthen. So I really had to go okay, let’s one thing. Yeah. But I realized that filling my head with the things that it needed to hear, even if it wasn’t necessarily coming from me at first was helping, and it was just encouraging and empowering me and making me feel like okay, yeah, I can do this. Yeah. And I had that belief. I could, like I said, like I said, I just didn’t know how the tools, right? Yeah.

Hutson 14:14
So did you Was it difficult? It was always difficult cutting ties with folks. But finding a new community can equally be just as challenging it would have find a community quickly or not quickly, how would you go about kind of, because I would imagine a lot of folks that feel similar kind of like, yeah, these group of people I associate with aren’t the best, but like, you know, we’ve invented 10 years or whatever, you know, right? I find people, right?

Katie 14:40
And I feel like you you can still have those people in your life, but you just have to consume more of your time and space with people that you want to be more like like that energy. Yeah, you want to feel you’ve got to be around that. And so, at that time, I found a community And I joined it because it was just about positive mindset. It was about working out. It was about eating healthier. And for me, I needed that. And it was a virtual community, which like, almost 10 years ago, I started that, which is, you know, it wasn’t something that was popular the point, right, yeah. And so it was kind of, for me at first, I was a little intimidated and a little nervous, because I thought it was a Facebook group, which I had no, I mean, I had no idea people could message you on Facebook at that time. Like when I discovered that I was like, Oh, my gosh, I have all these birthday invites. I didn’t know, terrible. But, you know, I remember thinking I was a little nervous, because I like, didn’t have a lot of confidence at that time. And I thought, you know, am I joining a community where all these women have it figured out? You know, is this going to be a welcoming community? Are they going to be judgmental? Because I’m just starting my journey. Yeah. But it was a really welcoming community. And that really helps me a lot. And it was just women from all over this country. Which was cool, because I made new friends that were all over the place. I wish that they had lived closer. Yeah, no, but it was nice to have that space. Yeah. Because I needed it

Hutson 16:16
was a space for when you have people that are like minded like that. Wherever you’re on the journey. Everyone’s different. But they everyone kind of hold each other accountable, whether it’s intentionally, which sometimes is really good for community, also, unintentionally, just, when you see people living, the way that you want to live like, that can be empowering, obviously can cause the reverse, which is it can crush your self confidence. But if you’re filling yourself with positive things, and you’re flowing to the positive people, it becomes not about crushing and confidence building your confidence. Yeah, I can be like them. Yeah. It makes you want to be better being around people that are pursuing a purpose. Yes.

Katie 16:56
And it’s totally reframing your mind going from Oh, those people are so annoying. They’re so happy all the time. Like, what? Life isn’t that perfect? Because that’s how I would used to think to going like, I wouldn’t be like that. Yeah, I want more joy. I want to be happy. I want I want to feel like I was saying like, I want to feel like sunshine to others. I want to be a light. And 10 years ago, I was not that. I was not that at all. But yeah, being, you know, choosing to surround yourself with that type of energy is is a game changer. Yeah, sure.

Hutson 17:32
Yeah. That first step is the hardest. And I think you mentioned we talked about just like committing personally, is the biggest way to do it. And then it’s the little small steps along the way. Yeah, sounds like for you, it was a lot of the the health journey personally, to climb out of that which now which can spill over to every area of your life to family and all of the things. Yeah. So how did you so is I’m assuming it sounds like that’s what kind of got you into the health, wealth, business side of things. Like you fell in love with it through your personal journey.

Katie 18:13
I did. Yeah. About a year into my journey. I began working with my doctor about four months into my journey, went to him and said, Hey, I need to talk to you, because I want to start getting off these medicines. And I feel like I’m in a good place with these routines and healthier habits that I can do this. I think one of the most frustrating things for me was I was put on all these medications. And I was told what they would do for me. I was never told what was going to happen when I went to get off of them. And so it was very difficult, very difficult. Just the side effects were horrible. And so that was that was definitely a hurdle to get over. I bet for sure. So there’s a lot of like, fighting, I say often, you know, I think so many of us are like, Oh, I wish we were motivated. I wish I felt motivated. And there are times where we will feel motivated. But I learned on this journey. I needed to be disciplined. Yeah. And I needed to focus more on that versus being feeling motivated. You can

Hutson 19:24
Yeah, you can build habits and those are real. Yes, feelings are also real, but they’re unpredictable. Yes. Whereas a habit we know is is neurologically is a thing that you can create. Right and once and then it’s that’s the discipline side of things. Yeah. And those things are you call them healthy habits. You can equally have unhealthy habits so we create right? Those are harder to break to yes. But once you do that, then when you don’t feel like your point we don’t feel like it doesn’t matter if you feel like it or not. In fact, most of time we don’t feel like doing all the things we do. But if you build if you build the systems around you will tell to you allow you to then continue and you know, we talked about like, your purpose. And if you know what your purpose is, and you don’t feel like it, you can kind of like recollect and say, Yeah, but this is going over here going to help me be the person I want to be. And the answer’s no, then okay, let’s come back. Right, let’s get back on that track and kind of you have guardrails, that way,

Katie 20:17
right. 100%.

Hutson 20:20
So, let’s talk a little bit about your practice what you’re doing, you’re working with women specifically? Is that one on one kind of? Yeah, what do you what do you bring into that, so

Katie 20:31
every client I work with looks different. Um, so what happened a year after my journey, I started running accountability groups. And so building a community and providing a space that was provided for me, I began to provide for other women. And I loved it. I wanted to just give other women hope, and to let them know they had a community that would welcome them. And that they weren’t alone. Because I think a lot of us we don’t, we’re not vulnerable. And you know, we act like everything’s great and fine and good, which isn’t a bad thing. But a lot of times, we’re things are not good. And we can feel really alone. And it’s hard to share that with other people. And so I really wanted to create a community where it didn’t feel like that for women, and they could share their struggles and feel like it was a safe space to do that, but also share their wins. And you know, I always say, it’s not like, Oh, they’re Suze bragging again, about what she just did, it was like, yes, Suzie like you’re doing this, using, and just cheering on women. And I, I’ve loved doing that. But through the years, I, you know, I’m getting older and went through some health issues, myself. And one thing I learned when I first struggled after being diagnosed with postpartum was I really struggled to find somebody that I felt like was listening to me, like it was being heard. I think, knowing what I know, now, my hormones were probably completely imbalanced. And what I didn’t need was necessarily these medications, I needed to figure out what the imbalances were and balance them out. But it didn’t know that at the time, and I’ve learned that you need to advocate for yourself, you need to ask questions, and it’s okay to get second opinions. So through these last 10 years, and went through some of my own health issues, and again, find my I found myself in this place where I was like, gosh, like something is not right. And nobody’s listening to me, you know, and the more I was sharing about that, on my social media, the more and more conversations I was having with women who were saying, Oh, my gosh, I’m going through the same thing. I feel like nobody’s listening to me. And I just kept hearing that over and over again. And I was like, gosh, I, you know, love what I do. But I just felt like I was being called to work with women more in a intimate setting one on one, where they actually had a place where they felt like they were being listened to find that space for me. So I really started researching schools, and I’m a researcher. And so my husband was like, Lord, you just need to make a decision. Like, I’m all behind you, but like some point gonna pull the trigger. Yeah. And I’m like, I know, I just want to make sure I’m right, you know, making the right decision. And I ended up coming across this book that this doctor wrote, and I read it. And it was about this doctor who was diagnosed with all of these different autoimmune disorders. Basically, at 17, he was told this, how you’re always going to live your life. And he was not okay with that. And so he went on his own mission of like, I’m going to figure this out. And so he had to travel outside of this country and started studying, you know, the way other people were being healed with autoimmune some of the things that he was diagnosed with, and was able through supplementation, changing his lifestyle, mindset, nutrition, changing his life and ridding himself of these autoimmune he was diagnosed with and he’s been able to keep them at bay since then, and, you know, became so passionate, became a doctor, you know, and led him down this path. And so I was like, I want to study under him, because he gets it. Yeah, he’s been there. And he knows, like, he just has a heart and a passion. And so I knew I felt was like, the right fit. And so, um, so I ended up going, you know, running my business, going back to school. While I was still trying to figure out what was going on with me. Yeah, and, but it eventually led me to opening up my own practice in September of last year.

Hutson 24:50
Oh, nice. Congratulations.

Katie 24:52
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

Hutson 24:54
What challenges are you facing with the new business and what uh, what What are some some big wins and successes you’ve had.

Katie 25:03
Um, so I would say the challenge would be when I first started, I basically have a new client package. And so when I first set that up, I wanted to make sure one I had spending enough time with them. So we have for one on one sessions together, that are an hour each. And we do like a really in for thorough intake form when they when they start with me. But what I’ve learned is outside of that, you know, I set aside so many hours to work on, all the clients that I see their needs are all so different. And it’s really figuring out what their imbalances are, so I can help them. And then we can get them onto a path to feeling incredible from within, which is like the ultimate goal, forget the perfect number and weights and whatever, like I want them and I work with for their goal to be I just want to feel incredible from within. Yeah. And so what I’ve learned, which has been, I feel like it’s a refining process, because it’s a new business is that I need more time. Because, you know, some of the women have been dealing with these things for 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, and there’s a lot of digging, there’s a lot of research, there’s a lot of things that are involved. So I’m realizing I need more time. So I’m realizing I’m not going to be able to see as many clients as I wanted to one on one each week, because I need more time for the women that I am going to be working with. So I’m figuring that out and adjusting that. Yeah,

Hutson 26:34
so do you do you mix in? Or is this a part of it? Or maybe not? Kind of the accountability counseling type piece?

Katie 26:42
So I do with the women, I’m working one on one with I do, I’m checking in with them every single week, following up with them seeing how their weeks going, you know, because they’re all following different things, different protocols, it depends what they’re healing from, um, you know, if it’s got issues, hormone issues, so everybody’s journey looks different. So I’m checking in, wanting to know, of course, what their wins are. You know, but also what their struggles are, and help them you know, so I’m just checking in with them weekly on that, and then I do a follow up with them on based off of what they share. But that’s another thing that I learned I need more time with because a lot of my follow ups. I had, you know, scheduled 30 minutes, and they’re taking me an hour, hour and a half. So, you know, I’m like I said, refining and learning. Yeah, as I go. If you want

Hutson 27:35
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Katie 28:25
I guess it kind of depends on the individual I’m, I’m talking with in general, like with women, I’ve been working with my accountability groups, I would say more, most of the women I work with their expectations of results are very unrealistic. And I cannot say it enough, like you have to be patient, you did not get to where you are overnight, you’re not going to get to where you want to be versus also true, right overnight. So being patient because I get messages still, you know, like, it’s been a week scale hasn’t moved, you know, and they’re freaking out. And I’m like, trust the process. Yeah, you know, and a lot of us and a lot of them women, I’m working with coming to me with habits like I had, right. And so, you one perfection can never be our goal, because that’s just unachievable. And we’re going to be miserable, and it’s not going to be sustainable. But to you know, just having realistic goals and timeline. And I love to tell people like give yourself a year. Yeah. Give yourself whole year like you’re learning to change so many things about your life. It’s gonna take time. Yeah. And not to feel like a failure. When you do something you know, you shouldn’t be doing Yeah, you know, learn from it. You know, well, how did you feel when you pounded that bag of m&ms? Well, I felt like crap. Okay. Well, do you want to keep feeling that way right now? Okay, well, let’s figure out what can we do instead of turning to the m&ms to solve our problem? What can we turn to instead? What’s a healthier option? What does that look like? And so, you know, It’s reframing the mind. You know, as we develop healthier habits,

Hutson 30:04
yeah, reframing the mind. And I think what you said is really good. We’re trying to do, if you’re trying to do so many things at one time, you’re gonna fail most of them, right? And we’d talk a lot about doing one thing at a time really well, and focusing and dialing in that thing for a quarter then moving on. Because then you can really put all the effort and energy and then your habits built to give me the next thing when you try and do seven things. Well, you’re probably going to fail it, maybe seven of them, maybe six, and then you feel like a failure. And even though we were successful in one, that’s great. Yeah. That’s like you said, that’s the long term vision versus the How fast can I fix this, which really is like, give me the BandAid, right? Versus will this is going to take time to really develop these habits really develop a new mindset, and kind of develop a new you a new person, which is the ultimate goal, right? Imagine right is like creating the version of the person you want to be

Katie 30:58
right. And that that amount of work and effort, even though it feels like oh my gosh, that’s a long road ahead of me. Makes everything that you achieve along the way. So much more worth. Yeah. And you appreciate your life and your health. So much more. Yeah, because of it.

Hutson 31:15
Yeah. And I mean, it is a long road, let’s pretend as a year, two years or whatever. But in the grand scheme, it goes by so fast. It does. It doesn’t the moment. We look back, like three months ago, a year ago, like it’s gone so

Katie 31:29
fast. Listen, when I was doing a 25 minute cardio workout, it felt like eternity. Like, how do people like this? Are the brothers right? I just do this everyday, like brushing my teeth. What are these people nuts. But again, like reframing my mind to going instead of going, I tried doing this, I hate this. I don’t want to do this. I can’t do this. It’s hard. I was like, you’ve got this, you can do this. It’s almost over with keep going. You know, just that was a huge piece to having success along the way was just constantly going, Nope. let’s reframe that. No, let’s, let’s make this better.

Hutson 32:04
What sounds like every, every difficulty you’ve experienced, personally has prepared you for these moments to be able to determine and help others find their joy, which isn’t easy to say I’m sure and I know it sounds easier to say than experience for sure. But it also sounds like through that process, you became an incredible coach. And you’re like you just said you’re coaching these people along to be their best selves, which I’m imagining is bringing you quite a bit of joy. Yeah.

Katie 32:35
100% I love love, love, love. I don’t like all the back office stuff. About You know, as visitors, suddenly you got to do those things. But yeah, it does bring me such joy. It doesn’t feel like that part does not feel like work. Yeah, at all.

Hutson 32:54
Have you seen any of what you’re learning and what you’re doing translate to being a spouse or mom 100%.

Katie 33:03
When I first started my journey, I was four years of very ashamed of how I live my life. And the example I was setting my kids, I always told my kids what to do and what not to do. But I wasn’t showing them that. And I remember thinking when I started because now my kids are 2220 and 18. At the time, 10 years ago, they were much younger, but they were older. And you know, I thought is what I’m about to do and show them gotta make a difference. But I honestly think that if you were to ask any of my kids, they wouldn’t remember the old me. I think they just think of me always being healthy. Which as a mom, like that makes me feel emotional. Because I just they’re my world. Yeah. And so I wanted to I wanted to show them like what it looked like to take care of themselves, because I want them to take. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Hutson 34:05
So you mentioned, I’m interested in food. If you talked about food, and that journey for you. I’m curious. You know, from your perspective, what how does that how does how does food play into your clients a big role.

Katie 34:25
And I think probably most of my clients are attracted to me because of my social media and because of the food that I share with them. When I started my journey, I love food, I love food. And I knew that I didn’t want to feel deprived, like I was missing out on things and it’s definitely been a journey that has progressed along the way for sure. Because I would like eat do that like the 8020 where I was like eating clean 80% of

Hutson 34:55
the time and then indulging. Yeah, and you know

Katie 34:59
that I was okay for a while, but because I was eating so clean and developing all these healthy habits when I was eating like the 20%, I was like, Man, I feel like crap, I almost would feel like I had like a hangover, even if I didn’t have alcohol because I just felt so crappy from the foods I ate. And I was like, Gosh, I really don’t like feeling this way. Like, it kind of became like, it’s not really worth it. And so I was like, Okay, I gotta figure this out. I love nachos. Like how do I make nachos healthier? Okay, I can use better, healthier, homemade chips, or I can do sweet potatoes instead of the chips, or I can do peppers. And so those chips like trying to figure out ways that I could make things healthier, so I could still enjoy them. Yeah, still indulge in them, but still feel good after I ate them. So that was like a mission of mine. So I love sharing recipes with other people that tastes really good, that are indulgent, and allow you to still feel really good after you enjoy them.

Hutson 35:58
That’s awesome. So you, you’re constantly pouring out to your family. And now they’re older. But you’re still I’m sure you are yes, pouring out to all these individuals who I’m sure you love to death, but also aren’t filling up all the time, right? Yeah. How are you filling yourself up to make sure you have enough to pour out others,

Katie 36:17
I would say my husband is a really huge help in that department. He is always reminding me to like it’s okay, you need to like do something for yourself, you need to take a break, you need to take a breather, because I am a workaholic. Just by nature. I’ve always been that way it started working at a very young age. And I’m very driven, but throw something that I’m passionate about. And I could do this 24/7 Which isn’t healthy. So I’ve been really trying to honor like the day of rest on Sunday, I’ve been removing myself from social media at least 24 hours every single week, sometimes a little bit longer. Because I do build a lot of my business on Sure. Social media and that’s draining I working on all the content. And it just it’s hard and straining. And so he’s always really great. Like tomorrow, he had told me like a week ago, like, take Friday off. And you’re gonna show up in athletic gear. I’m not telling you what we’re doing. Oh, nice. So like, he’s really good at being like, Yeah, gotta take some time off and you know, enjoy life on your

Hutson 37:27
season. You’re not he’s like, Fine, I’ll, I’ll build it. You have to? Yes,

Katie 37:31
exactly, exactly. Like, it’s already planned. You got it, you got to show up, you got to do it. But he’s been so supportive. And that’s huge, because I talked to women all the time, who don’t have supportive husbands, and he’s just been my rock. And like, he’s like, even before I had it here, he knew I was a little nervous. And he was like, gonna do great, babe. Like, no, you’re gonna crush it today. And like, just sweet little messages like that. So and it’s been great because I have been able to he was an athlete in you know, played, he was a pitcher in college. So he’s always been athletic. But, you know, when I was unhealthy, he was a little unhealthy. We kind of like, together, let’s have ice cream, have cocktails, you know, whatnot. But, um, so I do feel like when I began to change my habits, and he, you know, started to see how good I was feeling. And I wanted him to feel as good as I was feeling. I want everybody to feel as good as I’m failing. You know, he started jumping. Yeah. Which has been awesome. So he’s like, you know, crushing the gym, 5am workouts. He he’s in great health takes really good care of himself. And

Hutson 38:44
you can only count when he grew up inside your house.

Katie 38:48
Yeah. Which is amazing. And my kids too, like I love you know, they’re, they’re working out and they’re, you know, my 18 year old, he’s still making some food choices where I’m like, Oh, come on, you know, you’re not going to feel good. You know, I get asked often, like, Do your kids eat, you know, only healthy foods and eat perfectly? And I’m like, No, you know, no, they don’t. But I am proud of all three of them. Because they do you know, they make choices that are good, or for their well being. So that’s a good thing. Yeah.

Hutson 39:16
Well, for someone listening that wants to get in touch with you or learn more, where do they go?

Katie 39:23
freshford K on Instagram or my website, which is also fresh fit Kate as well. So when I opened up my practice, I thought I was going to change that name because that was attached to my accountability groups and that brand, but it’s sticking for now. Yeah, awesome.

Hutson 39:41
Yeah. Thanks so much for everything. Thanks for being open and honest. And yeah, very inspiring.

Katie 39:47
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Hutson 39:48
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